Showing posts with label AMD. Show all posts
Showing posts with label AMD. Show all posts

Friday, February 29, 2008

Radeon 3870 X2 on CeBIT: DDR4 RAM and Water Cooling

Most of AMD's partners on CeBIT released Radeon 3870 X2 video cards with DDR4 instead of DDR3. Radeon 3870X2 with water cooling also will be shown. Mass production of these video cards with DDR4 memory planned for middle March 2008. And you can find such a cards in shops around a first half of April 2008.

AMD (ATI) Radeon 3870 X2 (3870X2) with DDR4 and water cooling photo image

Cost of Radeon 3870 X2 with DDR4 will be slightly higher than its analogues with DDR3 memory, but exact overprice isn't known yet. Performance with new memory will be improved of course but not very much.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Dell Doesn't Want to Sell AMD Anymore

It seems Dell Company has disappointed in AMD based desktop computers and now seriously shrinks its stock of AMD related consumer products. Confirming this Dell announce that now you can't buy AMD based computer on Dell's website. And you can get such a computer only by phone or in offline shop.

Dell desktop AMD based computer

This news rushed down AMD shares immediately.  Shares felt on 4.7% to cost as low as $6,28 per share. It was just a excuse because the market was waiting for some bad news about AMD for 2 weeks already. Dell claims that it affects only website and AMD products may come back at any moment.

Dell is second in rating of world's leading computer manufacturers. It started to assemble desktop computers with AMD processors in may 2006. Now you can find only one desktop computer with AMD processor on the Dell website: Dell OptiPlex 740. Server solutions are not affected now.

Monday, January 1, 2007

Early AMD ATI "R600" Specs, Benchmarks Leaked

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Details of AMD's next generation Radeon hit the web

Newly created site Level 505 has leaked benchmarks and specifications of AMD’s upcoming ATI R600 graphics processor. The upcoming graphics processor is expected to launch in January 2007 with an expected revision arriving in March 2007. These early specifications and launch dates line up with what DailyTech has already published and are present on ATI internal roadmaps as of workweek 49.

Preliminary specifications from Level 505 of the ATI R600 are as follows:

  • 64 4-Way SIMD Unified Shaders, 128 Shader Operations/Cycle
  • 32 TMUs, 16 ROPs
  • 512 bit Memory Controller, full 32 bit per chip connection
  • GDDR3 at 900 MHz clock speed (January)
  • GDDR4 at 1.1 GHz clock speed (March, revised edition)
  • Total bandwidth 115 GB/s on GDDR3
  • Total bandwidth 140 GB/s on GDDR4
  • Consumer memory support 1024 MB
  • DX10 full compatibility with draft DX10.1 vendor-specific cap removal (unified programming)
  • 32FP [sic] internal processing
  • Hardware support for GPU clustering (any x^2 [sic] number, not limited to Dual or Quad-GPU)
  • Hardware DVI-HDCP support (High Definition Copy Protocol)
  • Hardware Quad-DVI output support (Limited to workstation editions)
  • 230W TDP PCI-SIG compliant

This time around it appears AMD is going for a different approach by equipping the ATI R600 with less unified shaders than NVIDIA’s recently launched GeForce 8800 GTX. However, the unified shaders found on the ATI R600 can complete more shader operations per clock cycle.

Level505 claims AMD is expected to equip the ATI R600 with GDDR3 and GDDR4 memory with the GDDR3 endowed model launching in January. Memory clocks have been set at 900 MHz for GDDR3 models and 1.1 GHz for GDDR4 models. As recent as two weeks ago, ATI roadmaps had said this GDDR3 launch was canceled. These same roadmaps claim the production date for R600 is February 2007, which would be after a January 22nd launch.

Memory bandwidth of the ATI R600 is significantly higher than NVIDIA’s GeForce 8800-series. Total memory bandwidth varies from 115GB/s on GDDR3 equipped models to 140GB/s on GDDR4 equipped models.

Other notable hardware features include hardware support for quad DVI outputs, but utilizing all four outputs are limited to FireGL workstation edition cards.

There’s also integrated support for multi-GPU clustering technologies such as CrossFire too. The implementation on the ATI R600 allows any amount of ATI R600 GPUs to operate together in powers of two. Expect multi-GPU configurations with greater than two GPUs to only be available for the workstation markets though.

The published results are very promising with AMD’s ATI R600 beating out NVIDIA’s GeForce 8800 GTX in most benchmarks. The performance delta varies from 8% up to 42% depending on the game benchmark.

When DailyTech contacted the site owner to get verification of the benchmarks, the owner replied that the benchmark screenshots could not be published due to origin-specific markers that would trace the card back to its source -- the author mentioned the card is part of the Microsoft Vista driver certification program.

If Level505's comments seem a little too pro-ATI, don't be too surprised. When asked if the site was affiliated in any way to ATI or AMD, the owner replied to DailyTech with the statement that "two staff members of ours are directly affiliated with AMD's business [development] division."

(c) www.dailytech.com

Saturday, December 30, 2006

Intel: We will produce foreign documents in AMD antitrust case

by Nate Anderson

Intel: We will produce foreign documents in AMD antitrust caseThough not yet stretching to the epic lengths of Jarndyce and Jarndyce, the AMD v. Intel antitrust lawsuit has been going for well over a year and is still mired in arguments about what materials will be allowed in the discovery phase of the trial. One of those arguments has just been settled as Intel has bowed to the decision of the case's special master, Vince Poppiti, and agreed to release documents about its foreign business practices.

In a letter to Judge Joseph Farnan, Intel's law firm says that the company will not be filing any objections to the special master's report. "While Intel obviously had hoped for a different outcome regarding discovery, Intel of course will comply with the Special Master's decision and will respond to discovery as the Special Master directs," said the letter, though it also noted that Poppiti was not making any claims about the admissibility of any evidence uncovered during discovery.

AMD has accused Intel of violating antitrust law by giving out cash payments or using discriminatory pricing in order to keep AMD from making any gains in the CPU market. AMD filed its lawsuit last year in federal court, though it suffered a setback in early 2006 when the judge ruled that US courts have no jurisdiction over Intel's alleged anticompetitive actions outside the US.

Intel wanted the judge to rule that this meant AMD should only be restricted to US information during discovery. AMD argued that it should be allowed to look for evidence in any part of Intel's business so long as the alleged offenses took place in the US, and Poppiti agreed earlier this month.

(c) www.arstechnica.com

Tuesday, December 26, 2006

AMD lent $650 million for New York State fab

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We wanted to know which is the best overclocking platform for Intel’s Core 2 Duo and some people who are really into it said we should maybe wait for the Nforce 680i motherboards.

They should be the fastest for both memory and CPU overclocking and the boards should emerge in the following days.

We know these will end up faster than both Intel’s high-end chipset 975X and the P965 although we know it will have a rough ride to beat RD600 from DAAMIT.

It supports three PCIe slots, two for graphic cards and one for physics, I guess they saw this one from ATI. We know that the memory can hit 1200MHz if not even higher. The boards based on it should be announced on the 8th, together with the new Geforce thingummy.

(c) www.theinquirer.net

Thursday, December 21, 2006

What's next for AMD?

by Jon Stokes

What's next for AMD?In a series of announcements and conference calls, culminating in a recent analyst meeting, AMD has been slowly revealing pieces of the big picture regarding where they plan to take their platforms in the coming years. I've been following the coverage, and I've put together a synthesis of it below.

Fusion and Torrenza: die-level vs. board-level

AMD's long-term plan appears to go as follows. First, they'll push Torrenza as a platform for doing board-level integration with specialized coprocessors. This way, system builders will have the option of tailoring systems to particular workloads by changing the mix of processors that inhabit the coherent HyperTranspoort sockets on a motherboard.

So for instance, for a four-socket motherboard, one customer may want two stream processors and two multicore general-purpose processors (i.e., Opteron or Athlon), while another may want one Java + XML coprocessor and three multicore general-purpose processors. Thus, system builders can mix and match to get the best performance per watt per dollar for the type of workload that their customers typically run.

Fusion and die-level integration

AMD also plans to do the same type of mix-and-match strategy at the level of the processor die by offering an array of heterogeneous multicore parts that fit different workloads. A "quad-core" processor from AMD might have two general-purpose cores and two specialized processor cores (e.g., a stream processor and a Java + XML coprocessor), one general-purpose core and three specialized cores, and so on. AMD refers to these specialized computing cores as application processing units (APUs), and they plan to develop an array of such application-specific, modularly designed cores that can be dropped onto a die and fabbed with minimal cost.

In addition to modular processor cores that can be mixed and matched to suit different application types, AMD also plans to make other parts of the processor modular, as well. Specifically, the processor will host one or more HyperTransport modules and other I/O interfaces, a memory controller, different levels and amounts of cache, and so on.

All of this die-level mixing and matching goes by the name of Fusion, with the result that Fusion and Torrenza are essentially the same idea, but at the die level and board level respectively.

AMD would like to use the Fusion/Torrenza combo to escape an n-core race with Intel. When you consider the fact that Intel's approach to the nascent n-core race, in which the company starts out with package-level integration before moving to die-level integration, leaves them perpetually ahead of AMD in terms of cores-per-socket, it's easy to see why AMD doesn't want an n-core race to replace the MHz race.

So will AMD's flexible, mix-and-match, Fusion/Torrenza approach beat Intel's brute-force multicore approach over the medium term? It's really hard to say at this point, but the question is worth thinking about from a historical perspective.

Integration and reincarnation

To understand the ebb and flow of the modern (post-integrated circuit) history of computing, you need to know three fundamental rules that govern the evolution of computing systems:

  1. Moore's Law: die-level integration is cheaper than board-level integration, and it gets ever cheaper as transistors shrink.
  2. The abstraction vs. specialization tradeoff: modularity and abstraction can be cheaper (depending on the amount of overhead involved), but specialization is almost always faster.
  3. Sutherland's "wheel of reincarnation": generally speaking, it's cheaper to do things with a combination of software and general-purpose hardware than it is to do them with specialized hardware, but sometimes the market demands faster instead of cheaper (see Rule #2). So functionality will move from the processor die to a dedicated coprocessor for speed's sake, and then back on to the processor die when the coprocessor becomes bloated with features and too expensive.

Let me take these three rules one at a time, and discuss their implications for AMD's overall strategy.

Rule #1 above may not look like the traditional formulation of Moore's Law, but if you've read my article on Moore's Law then you know that the traditional formulation doesn't look much like what Moore actually said. In fact, I think that my formulation here actually captures Moore's larger point, which was a point about the economics of integration, than does the traditional "transistor densities double every 18 months" phrase.

At any rate, this rule is the number one factor working against AMD's QuadFX initiative, which is basically a pitch to sell board-level integration using coherent HyperTransport and PCIe. The overwhelming economic advantages of die-level integration will forever relegate platforms that rely on board-level integration to more specialized niches. These specialized niches are profitable, but the really huge money is in the mass market, and the mass market has an endless appetite for die-level integration.

So the result of rule #1 for AMD's grand strategy is that Torrenza is a niche server/workstation technology, while Fusion could be used in everything from the high end of the market all the way down to mobile devices. The economics of microprocessors dictate that this is and will always be the case.

Rule #2 may mean that Fusion-based parts are generally slower and cheaper than whatever kind of specialized hardware that Intel is producing at the moment. I say this, because Fusion's basic idea of a library of modular functional blocks that are mixed and matched for different implementations seems to imply the heavy use of automated layout tools, with less process- and clockspeed-friendly customization. So the question for Fusion is, how much performance- and profit-killing overhead is implied in the modular design, and is the tradeoff worth it in terms of cost?

My point here is that the main way that Fusion is interesting is as a way to do performance per dollar (and per watt), and not raw performance. Note that this characterization is as true for servers as it is for, say, mobile phones. Leaving coprocessors on the system board (i.e., Torrenza) will probably make for better raw performance in most cases.

The other, closely related issue with such modular designs (software or hardware) is that they're forward-looking, with the idea being that an up-front investment in modularity and flexiblity will pay off over a projected long term scenario in which flexibility is important. But what if flexibility turns out not to be very important? Specifically, what if there are really only two or three types of functionality that will ever be worth putting on a processor die?

Put differently, AMD has pitched this idea of an APU as a sort of placeholder, and invited all of us to imagine many different types of specialized coprocessors that people will want to put on the CPU die. To help jump-start our imaginations, they've offered up the GPU as an example of functionality that's headed for the processor die in the very near future. Then, they have a few more minor, "hey, someone might do this" examples, like Java + XML processors and physics processors. But what if it turns out to be the case that the GPU—or, rather, a generic stream processor—is really the only specialized kind of coprocessor that's worth putting on the CPU die for the forseeable future? What if it turns out that there's essentially no such thing as an "APU," because in the real world all "APUs" are just stream processors?

This last point brings me to rule #3, the wheel of reincarnation. Sutherland's original observation that functionality moves back and forth between the main microprocessor and specialized, off-die hardware was originally made with respect to graphics processing. And indeed, graphics processing is really the only domain I can think of where the observation has consistently held true. So it's not insane to think that GPU functionality is ultimately the only thing that will continue to make that transition.

But maybe I'm wrong, and there are other specialized coprocessors that could profitably make the jump onto the CPU die. (Notice the word "profitably," because I'm sure there are some that could do so unprofitably, where the market wouldn't reward the time spent developing and implementing it.) If you can think of some other examples, post them in the discussion thread.

(c) www.arstechnica.com

Thursday, December 7, 2006

Nvidia unveils nForceR 680a SLI MCP

Nvidia introduced its new nForce 680a SLI media and communications processor (MCP), designed specifically for the new AMD Quad FX Platform with Dual Socket Direct Connect Architecture.

The nForce 680a SLI MCP provides processing capabilities on a massive scale, by allowing users to harness the power of up to four GPUs, eight displays, 12 SATA hard drives, and four gigabit Ethernet connections, all from a single consumer desktop PC, according to the company.

The nForce 680a SLI MCP is a motherboard core-logic solution providing a host of technologies, which include support for Nvidia SLI multi-GPU technology, with four PCI Express slots that can be used to drive up to eight independent, high-resolution displays for extended work spaces and advanced networking and storage capabilities, including support for up to four gigabit Ethernet connections and 12 SATA hard drives for a combined eight terabytes of media storage, according to Nvidia.

Additionally, the nForce 680a SLI MCP has been architected to take advantage of the power behind the AMD Athlon 64 FX-70 series processors, allowing users to also run multiple multi-threaded, CPU-intensive applications simultaneously without compromising performance, according to the company.

[original post: www.digitimes.com]

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